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Old 19th Nov 2009, 17:47
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Tin-Bullet
 
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@Aeroflop

There are ways in which traffic could be handled more expedisiously, like introducing arrival slots, helping the ACC utilise the stack more effectively,
by using BOTH runways more effectively and reducing the in trail spacing on final approach appropriatly.
For your info, & if needed, to update yourself, although we have Parallel Runways in Dubai, they ARE DEPENDANT! The ‘L’ (left) runway is ALWAYS the ARRIVALS runway, & the ‘R’ (right) is the DEPARTURES runway, in dual ops, in BOTH directions 30/12. Although we have staggered configuration, the DEPARTURES Controller cannot depart traffic if the arriving traffic on the ARRIVALS runway has crossed 2nm from touchdown.

You could argue that if we do not have any departures, we could then probably use BOTH runways for ARRIVALS. Up to now we can ONLY land traffic on ‘L’ (left) runway, in dual ops, so if this ever happens in the future, then we could have a different scenario.

There are many many busier airports in the world than Dubai that can handle far greater amounts of traffic from which we can learn.


Thanks to GCAA we have our hands tied, so unless common sense prevails from their side & less politics are involved, then perhaps, operations could improve one day…………..

@Guy D’ageradar

Believe me. it's just as frustrating from our end - we all know that there are ways to make things move more efficiently but we also know that nothing is going to change in the short term.


There are also much more efficient ways to use the stack, as you said - but if it's not Dubai that's preventing their implementation - we would LOVE to have the bottom few levels and pull traffic off more expeditiously but the GCAA won't allow it.
Could not have been said any better, cheers mate

@Payscale

If you are THAT good, why did I have to hold 125 NM from Dubai last night, together with 20 other guys!!


>>from>>Guy D’ageradar

Short answer....because although we have 2 runways, only one of you can use the landing one at a time! If some commom sense was applied to scheduling, there WOULDN'T BE 20 of you arriving at the same time!


Again, it’s ‘SAME SH!T – DIFFERENT DAY’………. & this is directed to our base operator, for BOTH DEPARTURES & ARRIVALS……..

If you claim to be one of the best long haul carriers, then why not have a look at your operations, perhaps splitting the departure gates & departure & arrival times altogether!

So, until everyone has the whole 'scenario & facts & procedures', then it would be understood in a much more easier way!
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