Willie, the outfit you refer to reflects all that is wrong with the industry, but I find I am unable to share you positive view of WJ, however I feel things are about to change as the public seems finally to work it out that brand new/high tech aircraft should not stall into a smoking hole on what should have been a routine landing, one only has to look at Porters load factors to see that a segment of the public will pay for quality. You are right about the chief pilot/hacks who go from one failed outfit to the next, you see they understand the first two rules of buisines which are {1} If you own the outfit, hire the very best and pay top money to get them.{2} If you dont own it, never hire any one smarter than yourself, they might take your job! My wife and I used rule number one for twenty one years, sold to employees and customers, sorry about the thread drift!