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Old 14th Nov 2009, 05:05
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Haroon
 
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To Open Des, RudderRudderRat, Cough, SafetyPee, John Tullamarine and FE Hoppy
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Thankyou all for your answers and information.

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To Intruder
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Thankyou for your response. Regarding the extra details you want to know:

- Departure airport is the only option.

- The factored landing distance equals the runway length at Max Landing Weight.

- Why 1.67 % is used? It's a dispatch safety figure for landing and thats what the discussion is all about that, "Can it be used once the A/C is airborne?"

- Unfactored landing distance of 5700 feet which I mentioned in the example is with operational reversers and autobrakes.

So with this extra info do you still hold your answer of Landing and not waiting? Thanx.


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To CityFan
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Thankyou for your response. Regarding some extra details regarding the example:

- Getting down to the factored (1.67) landing distance required burning 7000 Kg fuel i.e. to avoid legal implications in addition to safety.

- Brakes, Reversers, Spoilers, Anti-skid, etc all operational. And considering all of these, the factored distance came out to be 5700 feet.

- Full manual braking in high energy stops have caused tire deflations also. So even if you stop safely within the runway filed length avaialble but you are unable to taxi and block the runway and by any chance disemabark your passengers on the runway, then what do you think think about the legal implications?

So with this extra info do you still hold your answer of Landing and not waiting? Thanx.

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To QualityTimes
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Thankyou for your response. Just for clarity I mention again:

- After consulting the QRH the unfactored distance is 5700 feet. Performace wise field length is not enough if we apply 1.67 safety factor. However if we dont use 67% safety factor then we are within our field length. So is it OK not to use 67% safety factor once airborne? Will this be legally covered?

- This example is not a Mayday or Pan situation. Soon after takeoff there is complete depressurization and the A/C is under control below 10,000 feet. Everything else is normal.

So with this extra info do you still hold your answer of Landing and not waiting? Thanx.


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To DFC
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Thankyou for your response. Regarding some extra details about the example which you need to know:

- Soon after takeoff there is complete depressurization and the A/C is under control below 10,000 feet. Everything else is normal. However your
answer has covered this situation and you said you would rather wait to land.
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