P23 - not quite sure what you mean. But yes the two posts on this thread are me. I was pointing out that Air France invest in all juniour pilots coming into AF through their own cadet scheme - unless I'm mistaken?? and the bit about the safety record was me having a cheap jibe at the company. It's a bit of an ongoing joke in our household as my Mrs works for them. She's a Frenchie and I'm a Brit.