Has anyone ever wondered, in their argument that RYR are making such good profits reletive to others, if they are comparing apples with apples. Many on this thread, in other occupation, argue that they are receiving pension contributions, PHI cover, no deductions for uniforms/sims etc. plus other duty benefits. RYR pays nothing of these. Further, they 'employ' more than 50% contractors. Thus they save a massive amount on government premiums. They also have the most extensive of add on charges for pax. Indeed, the travel section of DT calculated that in 2008 they made 650m on charges, but only 350m profit. Thus most of their profit is from avoiding employment costs common to most industries and other ancillery charges. Talk to your friends who earn over 50.000pa and ask them about their benefits included in their T's & C's as standard. Ask any friends who earn +80.000. You'll be amazed what they receive, AND expect. Look to ourselves and see how cheaply you've sold your souls. Then consider that if RYR had to pay these similar costs to its airline competitors what its profits would be. I suspect very little if any.