TheBeaK,I totally agree with your statement regarding the winners and I am not trying to kick anybody,just expressing a different point of view...It took me almost 10 years to get that first flying job,I just didn't have sufficient funds to pay for the training after school,went through college,worked for several years and did the training part-time,spread over a period of 5 years,during which I only had enough money to eat and pay for rent.No social life,no weekends,no friends... But I never complained about anything,never ever thought of quitting. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger".