I'm not getting into a childish tit-for-tat exchange over who knows this and who knows that.
My point was, and remains, that I feel that any perceived airworthiness issues involved in THIS incident are smaller factors than others that appear (sickeningly) obvious since the CVR has been published in various formats by the media. It does appear that some posters wish to hijack this incident to champion their own cause (airworthiness).
Try not to get too upset Chug, it's a discussion and this is just my opinion. You have your own opinion about the state of military airworthiness in this country and you have the right to have your say on the matter. Please bear in mind that I may have intimate knowledge of other incidents that you mention.