Fernitickles
Thats OK
reading over my post especially comparing it against a Firefly aerobatic machine I can see how you linked "roll" to an aerobatic manouvre.
Yes I did mean the roll rate in seconds showing how twitchy it may be in cloud flying. The mooney has a slow roll rate and is a doddle for prolonged hand flying in cloud. I got the impression on earlier Cirrus that they maybe hardwork and certainly harder work than a Mooney or Piper Archer. The mooney is slippery too, the Archer draggy. But fast roll rate and slippy is dodgy for low time pilots?
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