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Old 8th Apr 2001, 11:05
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Zeke
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">That two competent pilots allowed the aircraft to go into a dive on autopilot with full throttle is just a bit far fetched, don't you think?</font>
Thinking of an A320 accident that happened in India where the crew selected 3000 ft/min descent instead if a 3 deg down flight path angle, aircraft flew into the ground on autopilot. A simple push button switch changes the autopilot mode from flight path angle to vertical speed.

Its called CFIT, unfortunately it has happened a far bit, some other examples American Airlines B757 Cali, Air New Zealand DC10 Mt Erebus, or more recently Gulf Air 072 where the crew flew the aircraft into the ground when they were too quick for the approach and decided to do a low level orbit to lose speed.

It does happen, unfortunately too often.

This is a list of all B737s that have been written off, surely they all could not have been due to “pilot error” or “suicide tendencies on the part of the crew”

01 APR 2001 According to the Indian Court of Inquiry final report, the Air Alliance B737 crash (July 2000) was caused by a loss of control; the crew had not followed the correct approach procedure and allowed the plane to stall and crash.accident description

I have just sorted these in date order……..

[list=1][*] B737-222 W/O 19JUL70 UNITED AIRLINES N9005U PHILADELPHIA, PA[*] B737-222 W/O 08DEC72 UNITED AIRLINES N9031U CHICAGO, IL[*] B737-2A8 W/O 31MAY73 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-EAM DELHI, INDIA[*] B737-247 W/O 31MAR75 WESTERN AIRLINES N4527W CASPER, WY[*] B737-2H6(A) W/O 04DEC77 MALAYSIA AIRLINES (ILFC) 9M-MBD SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA[*] B737-275 W/O 11FEB78 PACIFIC WESTERN AIRLINES CF-PWC CRANBROOK, BRITISH COLUMBIA[*] B737-2A1(A) W/O 03APR78 VASP PP-SMX CONGOHAS, BRAZIL[*] B737-229C(A) W/O 04APR78 SABENA OO-SDH CHARLEROI, BELGIUM[*] B737-2A8 W/O 17DEC78 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-EAL HYDERABAD, INDIA[*] B737-2A8(A) W/O 26APR79 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-ECR MADRAS, INDIA[*] B737-2M2C(A) W/O 05NOV80 TAAG ANGOLA AIRLINES D2-TAA BENGUALA, ANGOLA[*] B737-293 W/O 17FEB81 AIR CALIFORNIA N468AC SANTA ANA, CA[*] B737-222 W/O 22AUG81 FAR EASTERN AIR TRANSPORT B-2603 TAIPEI, TAIWAN[*] B737-222 W/O 13JAN82 AIR FLORIDA N62AF WASHINGTON, DC[*] B737-2A1(A) W/O 24MAY82 VASP PP-SMY BRASILIA, BRAZIL[*] B737-2Q3(A) W/O 26AUG82 SOUTHWEST AIRLINES - JAPAN JA8444 ISHIGAKI, JAPAN[*] B737-2A1C(A) W/O 22FEB83 VASP PP-SNC MANAUS, BRAZIL[*] B737-2B1 W/O 28MAR83 LAM - MOZAMBIQUE C9-BAB QUELIMANE, MOZAMBIQUE[*] B737-2V2(A) W/O 11JUL83 TAME HC-BIG CUENCA, ECUADOR[*] B737-2P6(A) W/O 23SEP83 GULF AIR A40-BK DUBAI, ABU DHABI[*] B737-2M2(A) W/O 09NOV83 TAAG ANGOLA AIRLINES D2-TBN LU BANGO, ANGOLA[*] B737-2M2(A) W/O 09FEB84 TAAG ANGOLA AIRLINES D2-TBV HUAMBO, ANGOLA[*] B737-275(A) W/O 22MAR84 PACIFIC WESTERN AIRLINES C-GQPW CALGARY, ALBERTA[*] B737-2H7C(A) W/O 30AUG84 CAMEROON AIRLINES TJ-CBD DOUALA, CAMEROON[*] B737-2P5(A) W/O 15APR85 THAI AIRWAYS HS-TBB PHUKET, THAILAND[*] B737-236(A) W/O 22AUG85 BRITISH AIR TOURS G-BGJL MANCHESTER, ENGLAND[*] B737-266(A) W/O 24NOV85 EGYPT AIR SU-AYH LUQA, MALTA[*] B737-2A1 W/O 28JAN86 VASP PP-SME GUARULHOS, BRAZIL[*] B737-281 W/O 16FEB86 CHINA AIRLINES B-1870 MAKUNG, TAIWAN[*] B737-286(A) W/O 15OCT86 IRAN AIR EP-IRG SHIRAZ, IRAN[*] B737-222 W/O 25OCT86 PIEDMONT AIRLINES N752N CHARLOTTE, NC[*] B737-270C(A) W/O 25DEC86 IRAQI AIRWAYS YI-AGJ ARAR, SAUDI ARABIA[*] B737-2A1(A) W/O 04AUG87 LAN CHILE CC-CHJ SANTIAGO, CHILE[*] B737-2P5(A) W/O 31AUG87 THAI AIRWAYS HS-TBC PHUKET, THAILAND[*] B737-230(A) W/O 02JAN88 CONDOR D-ABHD IZMIR, TURKEY[*] B737-297 W/O 29APR88 ALOHA AIRLINES N73711 KAHULUI, HAWAII[*] B737-260(A) W/O 16SEP88 ETHIOPIAN AIRLINES ET-AJA BAHAR DAR, ETHIOPIA[*] B737-287(A) W/O 26SEP88 AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS LV-LIU USHUAIA, ARGENTINA[*] B737-2A8 W/O 19OCT88 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-EAH AHMADABAD, INDIA[*] B737-4Y0 W/O 08JAN89 BRITISH MIDLAND (GPAG) G-OBME LEICESTER, ENGLAND[*] B737-2B1(A) W/O 09FEB89 LAM - MOZAMBIQUE C9-BAD LICHINGA, MOZAMBIQUE[*] B737-248 W/O 03APR89 FAUCETT PERU OB-1314 IQUITOS, PERU[*] B737-241(A) W/O 03SEP89 VARIG PP-VMK S. JOSE DO XINGU, BRAZIL[*] B737-401 W/O 21SEP89 US AIR N416US LAGUARDIA AIRPORT[*] B737-209(A) W/O 26OCT89 CHINA AIRLINES B-180 HUALIEN, TAIWAN[*] B737-204 W/O 30DEC89 AMERICA WEST AIRLINES (ASC) N198AW TUCSON[*] B737-2X6C(A) W/O 02JUN90 MARKAIR N670MA UNALAKLEET, ALASKA[*] B737-222 W/O 22JUL90 US AIR N210US KINSTON, NC[*] B737-247(A) W/O 02OCT90 XIAMEN AIRWAYS B-2510 CANTON, CHINA[*] B737-3Y0 W/O 05NOV90 PHILIPPINE AIRLINES (GPAG) EI-BZG MANILA[*] B737-3B7 W/O 01FEB91 US AIR N388US LOS ANGELES[*] B737-291(A) W/O 04MAR91 UNITED AIRLINES N999UA COLORADO SPRINGS, CO[*] B737-2A8(A) W/O 16AUG91 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-EFL IMPHAL, INDIA[*] B737-2K6(A) W/O 17NOV91 SAHSA (GPAG) EI-CBL SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA[*] B737-204(A) W/O 07JUN92 COPA PANAMA (BRITANNIA) HP-1205CMP LA PALMA, PANAMA[*] B737-2A1C(A) W/O 22JUN92 VASP PP-SND CRUZIERO DO SUL, BRAZIL[*] B737-287C W/O 20NOV92 AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS LV-JNE SAN LUIS[*] B737-3Y0 W/O 24NOV92 CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES (GPAG) B-2523 GUILIN, CHINA[*] B737-3Z6 W/O 30MAR93 ROYAL THAI AIR FORCE 33-333 BANGKOK[*] B737-2A8(A) W/O 26APR93 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-ECQ AURANGABAD, INDIA[*] B737-2H6(A) W/O 18JUL93 SAHSA (ILFC) N401SH MANAGUA, NICARAGUA[*] B737-5L9 W/O 26JUL93 ASIANA (DMA) HL7229 MOKPO, KOREA[*] B737-112 W/O 19NOV93 COPA PANAMA HP-873CMP PANAMA CITY, PANAMA[*] B737-2R4C(A) W/O 08MAR94 SAHARA INDIA AIRLINES VT-SIA DELHI, INDIA[*] B737-3W0 W/O 29JUL94 YUNNAN PROVINCIAL B-2540 KUNMING, CHINA[*] B737-3B7 W/O 08SEP94 US AIR N513AU PITTSBURGH[*] B737-2C0 W/O 26NOV94 CONTINENTAL AIRLINES N11244 HOUSTON[*] B737-2D6C(A) W/O 21DEC94 AIR ALGERIE 7T-VEE COVENTRY, UK[*] B737-4Y0 W/O 29DEC94 TURKISH AIRLINES (GPAG) TC-JES VAN, TURKEY[*] B737-298C(A) W/O 02JAN95 KINSHASA AIR ZAIRE 9Q-CNI RAN OFF R/W, GEAR FAILED[*] B737-281(A) W/O 16JAN95 SEMPATI AIR (ASEAN LEASE) PK-JHF JOGJAKARTA[*] B737-2A1(A) W/O 02FEB95 VASP PP-SMV SAO PAULO, BRAZIL[*] B737-2H6(A) W/O 09AUG95 AVIATECA (ILFC) N125GU SAN SALVADOR[*] B737-2F9(A) W/O 13NOV95 NIGERIA AIRWAYS 5N-AUA KADUNA[*] B737-2A8(A) W/O 02DEC95 INDIAN AIRLINES VT-ECS DELHI - OVERRAN INTO SOFT GND[*] B737-2K9(A) W/O 03DEC95 CAMEROON AIRLINES TJ-CBE DOUALA[*] B737-222 W/O 29FEB96 FAUCETT PERU (IALI) OB-1451 AREQUIPA, PERU[*] CT-43A (B737-253) W/O 03APR96 UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 73-1149 DUBROVNIK, CROATIA[*] B737-2D6C(A) W/O 02AUG96 AIR ALGERIE 7T-VED TIEMCEN, ALGERIA[*] B737-2C3(A) W/O 14FEB97 VARIG PP-CJO CARAJAS, BRAZIL[*] B737-31B W/O 08MAY97 CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES B-2925 SHENZHEN, CHINA[*] B737-242C W/O 03AUG97 AIR AFRIQUE (POLA) TU-TAV DOUALA, CAMEROON[*] B737-268(A) W/O 06SEP97 SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES HZ-AGM NAJRAN, SAUDI ARABIA[*] B737-36N W/O 19DEC97 SILKAIR (GECA) 9V-TRF PALEMBANG, INDONESIA[*] B737-291 W/O 02FEB98 (RAM AIR SALES) N737RD DBER IN TORNADO - MIA[*] B737-2K3(A) W/O 26FEB98 CHANCHANGI AIRLINES (AGX) YU-ANU LAGOS, NIGERIA[*] B737-2H4(A) W/O 12APR98 ORIENT EAGLE AIRWAYS (PALM BCH AERO) P4-NEN ALMATY, KAZAKSTAN[*] B737-282(A) W/O 05MAY98 PERU AIR FORCE FAP-351 ANDOAS, PERU[*] B737-2J8C(A) W/O 19JUL98 SUDAN AIRWAYS ST-AFL KHARTOUM, SUDAN[*] B737-524 W/O 16SEP98 CONTINENTAL AIRLINES N20643 GUADALAHARA, MEXICO - FUSELAGE @ MHV DEC99[*] B737-2P6(A) W/O 01NOV98 AIR TRAN AIRWAYS (GECA) EI-CJW ATLANTA[*] B737-228(A) W/O 04MAR99 AIR FRANCE F-GBYA BIARRITZ[*] B737-4Q8 W/O 06APR99 TURKISH AIRLINES (ILFC) TC-JEP CEYHAN, TURKEY[*] B737-247 W/O 10MAY99 MEXICAN AIR FORCE XC-IJI LOMA BONITA, MEXICO[*] B737-2A6 W/O 17MAY99 LADECO AIRLINES (CORS) CC-CYR [*] B737-3Y0 W/O 09JUN99 CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES (GECA) B-2525 ZHANJIANG, CHINA[*] B737-204C W/O 31AUG99 LAPA LV-WRZ BUENOS AIRES[*] B737-3T5 W/O 05MAR00 SOUTHWEST AIRLINES N668SW BUR OVERSHOT R/W ON LDG[*] B737-2H4(A) W/O 19APR00 AIR PHILIPPINES RP-C3010 DAVAO, PHILIPPINES[*] B737-2A8(A) W/O 17JUL00 ALLIANCE AIR VT-EGD PATNA, INDIA[*] B737-4D7 W/O 03MAR01 THAI AIRWAYS INTL HS-TDC BANGKOK, THAILAND[/list=a]