This is pretty dire folks - catplaystation has got it in one. Bruce Wayne, your arguments are at best convoluted - I simply cannot understand what your point is. Your re-iterations are just quotes of unbelievably badly written arguments from a previous incomprehensible argument! I have slightly lost track of whether you and al446 are in BALPA or not or if you are for or against Ryanair. Whatever your points are, it would be most helpful if you could produce a shorter, more succinct statement of your position - I am confused.