not sure how MIKE turned this into a convo about 072? has nothing to do with this thread. my 2 cents is that GF safety in general has nothing to do with "culture" per say. It has to do with mismanagement in the past. And please dont tell me that it could only happen here cause we all know it happens everywhere. Also Meph i find it very interesting how WE ALL only seem to think of things from our own perspective and in general dont respect or consider some people are different and they to have validity. i guess that is why most pilots never stick together because the views always change depending on what they can get out of the situation.