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Old 14th August 2009 | 15:30
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Bruce Wayne
 
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Bruce (or shall i call you commandb,Leo & Co.?),
You can call me Susan if makes you happy.

you often play the player and not the ball, why do you refer to ME as if I was the problem, try to concentrate on the facts and not on me.
What on earth does that mean ?

I have never referred to you as being *the problem*.

As for concentrating on facts, yet again you miss the point by a country mile. You simply cannot grasp market segments. Can you not understand not everything in this world exists to suit *you*.

If you like to have a company where employees don't complain then I suggest you put it in the next T&C's revision under some kind of "mandatory high morale, no complaints and leave if you don't like it" paragraph together with further pay cuts due to "the way the market is".
I have no say in what goes into the T&C's revision, I have a choice in accepting the terms of a contract or not.

You really do fail to understand current economic circumstances.

Not only are people getting pay cuts, not just in the aviation industry, people are getting made redundant in every industry. Airlines are facing huge economic problems that threaten their existence.

Airlines are laying pilots off, not out of choice, just to spite *you* or drive down *your T&C's, but to bloody exist.

Frankly, no matter how many times the economic situation is presented or in how many different ways, you simply cannot grasp that and demand more pay and better T&C's.

If you simply cannot interpret and implement basic information then your competency as flight crew must therefore be questioned.

You are also pretty boring in your one sided view of the issue and strenuous defence at any cost of even the most obviously primitive behaviors of the company and I could also advise you to leave the discussion if you don't like what others say, I don't think you have a doctor's prescription that forces you to read and post here....
If you care to review past posts, you will note that a one sided view is NOT what is being presented, it's called a balanced view. That involves taking into account external driving factors and arriving with a balanced view subject to influencing factors..

There is no strenuous defence at all. It is what lucid people refer to as 'reality'.

You expect a low cost carrier to provide all the benefits of a legacy carrier, when under the current economic situation, the legacy carriers are having to reduce flight crews and cut costs wherever they can; Yet, you demand more pay and better T&C's..

NO ONE forced you into your position, nor is anyone forcing you stay.

I have not advised you leave the discussion, quite the opposite. I take a rather perverse pleasure in your posts.. it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

What I have suggested to you that if you do not like the T&C's that you have, and your demands for increase are not being met, and again let me reiterate this point for you, are not likely to be in the current economic status, then you are free to depart and seek pastures new.

Frankly what you fail to understand, and it looks like i will have to spell this out for you too, is that it is the militant stance demanding better T&C's and pay increase during the biggest economic blight in the history of commercial aviation is what damages T&C's the most as all you do is get management's back up, present the understanding that you have no clue how an air carrier economics work, dont want to know, donant want to understand, just stamp your feet and demand creates a rift between management and crews.

you are the one that has an "Us and Them" attitude to management, yet fail to comprehend that you are on the same team, when the airline does well and managemnet and crews interface with each other and understand each other T&C's increase.

I wont wait for the 'pop' sound of your head coming out of your ass, I'm sure it will remain firmly in place.

But someone obviously more intelligent and forward looking than you once said something along these lines: "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
hahah ! classic.


So feel free to keep posting all the nonsense they tell you to write, se we can all read and draw conclusions.
The signs of paranoia eh Danny ?

*they* ?

It's all a big 'spiracy is it ?

Yes we are all drawing our own conclusions duckie !

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