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Old 14th August 2009 | 12:35
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Bruce Wayne
 
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Flyingstig,


to a degree, yep, however, the minimum level of service provided to a customer is directly proportional to the level of price they are willing to pay.

I am not party to the contractual terms that FR have with the ground service providers, it is not my concern, nor my business. However, having put into place several operations in the past, it has proved frustrating in negotiating the terms and price effectiveness of desks, even if they are made available.

It would be surprising to many people the cost implications of desks at PoE's more so the amount of traffic that PoE sees.

Again, this has to be paid for somewhere. The likes of Dannyangina expect to see increased T&C's in an economy that is close to being worse than anything since the wright brothers got airborne at kitty hawk, yet expect a high level of customer service, from a situation where the services provided are provided by dictum from the airport owners.

In short, the more flexibility you want the more it is going to have to be paid for.

As much FR can be 'blamed' for low service levels in the industry, or lower T&C's for staff across the board, it is the way the LoCo business is run.

Passengers want low prices, the costs have to be cut to provide that low cost, the government is not going to subsidise low cost carriers, they are not the utilities they are viewed as.

Dannyangina wants a pension, his uniform, his health care, his rent, his loss of license insurance, his shoes, his sustenance paid for, he's not going to get that in a LoCo environment. Right now he's not going to get that in a legacy carrier either.

Aircraft operation as we all know is a complex and involved processed, which involves the implementation of other services which cannot be provided by the operator, they have to be provided by third parties and that costs. Those third parties are, like air carriers in business for one thing only.. to turn a profit. So if you want a higher level of service they expect it to be paid for. And there will be times when what is coverable in the costs, will have a fall off.

And so it turns back to the point of:

" If you want full fare scheduled carrier service on lift between two points and beyond then there is a cost that comes with it. If you want to pay the lowest fare available between between two points, then it comes with the fat trimmed out.

It's cutting to the bone that enables low cost carriers to operate within their market place, if you want the fat, then it has to be paid for. "

Dannyangina, you keep professing that FR is the root of evil in the aviation industry, yet you wont leave to seek a flight deck position that will be everything you have ever dreamt of.

Low Cost Carriers fulfil a market segment that the customer demands, hence FR's continued growth.

Did MOL knock you over the head in Le Jazz or Sabor Di Vino and you woke up manacled to Ryanair 737 flight deck?

No ! you applied yourself, you went through the process yourself. you were well aware that FR is a LoCo carrier and that involves an operator that *has* to keep costs to a minimum to maintain its viability in its market segment.

Again, "it's a commercial environment. that is, customers have the choice to fly FR, they are not forced by any government dictum, nor is MOL standing over anyone, whip in hand, as they surf the internet looking for lift between x and y.

They are free to choose FR, EZ, BA, KLM, Air France, Big Bertha's Air Taxi and Flying school, whoever. "

To be honest Dannyangina, your consistent wailing is becoming like a stuck record, and it's getting boring.

If you are so disheartened in FR... LEAVE. Flyingstig, for one will be glad to take your position, as will many, many others.

Just don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
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