Fletch I think you missed your calling, see you at anger management! Now the issue of pay is completely different to that of wanting to see an airline fail. The management at Astraeus may or may not be as you describe, however failure impacts the normal cabin crew, office staff, and flight deck whom may not have the luxury of choosing where they work. Agreed pay should be realistic, but if you use agency staff, you are getting stitched up for about 20% on top and at the end of the day the operational costs to the airline will be the same, the alternative, short term contracts can be as expensive, you are paying for flexible staff. Any growth, on any fleet is good for the industry and none of us should wish ill will on these ventures.. ok Ryanair is fair game!