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Old 6th August 2009 | 09:45
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RAT 5
 
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Interesting: Leo states he is not MOL or other high up management; yet he makes a specific statement about what "we" will do if BALPA issue a written letter valid for 10 years. Firstly does he/her have the authority to make such a company policy statement? Secondly, it is a idle bluff as the letter will never be issued. It is easy to lay down unacceptable or unrealistic conditions. It looks like you are making a genuine promise when in fact the opposite is true.
As has been said many times, a union is not the cavalry that will come riding in to save the oppressed masses. It is an umbrella under which employees can congregate and achieve some unity of purpose with professional backup. Any union would be asked for help by employees. Once asked they would trumpet their campaign. If the employees then decide not to go ahead with union representation it is they who withdraw their request. It is not the union offices who need to withdraw, as they've never been officially involved. It was not they who initiated the scenario.

I'm not a union member, nor RYR employee, but it seems that some on both sides are missing the point and using some dubious contentions to achieve other agendas. Some clear headed adult professional discussions on both sides might be the way forward, but it is for those on the inside to assess the chance of success.

For Leo, I ask again him to name 1 airline where the unions have driven it to the wall. As yet, after 2 years, no reply. Ask him to name airlines whose management have driven them to the wall; again silence but the history of the market is clear. Is it not the case that BALPA pilots at BA have agreed cost cutting measures and a reduction in T's & C's to help their company. Is this the sign of a group of pilots hell bent on company bankrupting extravagance? Was BALPA's agreement on massive financial help from the pilots' pension fund to the company a sign of the same? Was BALPA's agreement to reduce overall pension costs during the past 10 years, with introduction of new schemes, a sign of the same. I think not. Look at the number of managers who've been shifted out and you'll see that much of the massive overheads were created by management not pilots.
Once again, slowly, pilots are in it for the longterm, managers for short term profit and quick bonuses and then move on, even out of the industry. So, who has the better longterm interest at heart.
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