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Old 1st Aug 2009, 23:28
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anito4a
 
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Originally Posted by boeingdream787
@Anito(whatever.......)
NOW u've really asked for it buster.
If u r as stupid as ur post claims to be then the explanation below shall make no sense to u whatsoever.If u r an aviator then start looking asap for a second job!
CFIT......u moron,is just that.Controlled......!! Right until the time the frieking thing becomes a hole in the ground.Whence onwards it becomes UNCONTROLLED and a frieking crash,for crying out aloud .If it was "CONTROLLED" all the way to the ground then why the f#@k did it crash u idiot......think about that.The only so called "controlled" flight into terrain by ur definition would be if the 2 pilots on the flt deck were dead.....!! Only then would there be no response a nano second from inevitable crash.But that's not what happens in Cfit is it.Cfit is by definition,an airworthy airplane burning a hole into the ground,without wx or any apparent malfunctions playing a part.It is wholly attributed to pilot error(or human error).Doesnt matter how u skin the cat.Do u even KNOW why the frieking stall warning was rattling for soooo very long with no response from "very un incapacitated" pilots.NO......so keep ur uneducated guesses to urself and get back to that flight sim u nleft on the console.Cause thats where u belong,the armchair.
Jeeeese......
This type of outburst is more akin to someone who is a 14 year old kid flying microsoft flight simulagtor, than someone who really is a Boeing 777 TRE and Boeing Test pilot!

It was you who said that it was CFIT, and that CFIT is the same as stall. Here it is, and I quote from your post, in reply to smiling monkey;

Originally Posted by boeingdream787
The '360 degree turn' or 'orbit on final' has since ben rendered illegal and banned unless the landing aerodrome is positively identified.The "commander" of the flight was shortly being upgraded to check pilot and the F/O was due for a commander's upgrade.The FO was doing the sector (illegally) from the LHS and the Capt was "instructing" from RHS.Both were drinking till 3 AM in their hotel room for a 6 AM departure.No breathalyser was conducted,but this was ascertained from the PM reports and the hotel queries and investigations.Pure CFIT,this one!

Originally Posted by smiling monkey
CFIT? The stick shaker would suggest they stalled whilst doing the orbit.

Originally Posted by boeingdream787
What else is Cfit my friend.......
The stick shaker was on for 23 seconds before they hit the ground.Lowest registered speed......97 kts.....!!!

A stall is uncontrolled flight. CFIT is controlled. And seriously boeingdream787, this is something even a PPL would know.

Originally Posted by boeingdream787
If it was "CONTROLLED" all the way to the ground then why the f#@k did it crash u idiot......think about that.The only so called "controlled" flight into terrain by ur definition would be if the 2 pilots on the flt deck were dead.....!!
..and this quote of yours really shows that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the difference between CFIT and stall! It was you who said it was "pure CFIT". Not me, nor anyone else. The aircraft stalled. Period.

By the way, check the post above from WIKI44 for the definition of CFIT. You might learn something.
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