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Old 27th Jul 2009, 11:54
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Agaricus bisporus
 
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Heathrow Director, with a handle like yours I'm surprised at you!

This is exactly what I am talking about - and you should know better than anyone. "Established" means on the localiser and glide, by definition - nothing else - there's no "fully" about it! You don't expect "Established, on localiser and glidepath" - why not take it further and say "Fully established, on localiser and glidepath" - and say it three times over just to be sure? Why not "cleared land and to put my wheels on the runway"

Putting gash words in front of the correct ones merely serves to dilute the meaning of the correct one - the suggestion of "fully ready to push" "is making it cleare" is going down the same rocky road as Heathrow Director in deliberately failing to understand and act on correct RT, and surely we can all see that hazards of that.
The answer on the pushback scenario is just to keep them waiting another 10 minutes if they pull that one, and then explain why. That would soon stop it.

Why not just stick to correct RT?

(I haven't heard "ready for take off" in many years - thankfully)
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