sorry to all for sidetracking this thread on staff travel all i did was to respond to a cc post with what i have seen and thanks to lowerlobe [and with a name like that must have been around for some time] for your input ....back to staff travel as i have said before if they fix the pricing and the rourts that some times are done at check in i think its ok you only have to travel on other opreators to see that.....remembering years ago travelling overseas and it was a nice comfy feeling to get back onto a qf aircraft and these were the days of only y-class travel yes no j-class only first and dont think any staff were allowed in there...maybe captains as they were the days when a captain was the ceo