Nostradamus,
Plenty of guns and swords were stopped by security before 9/11.
The point is that the weapons used were completely legal, EVERYWHERE.
What has been proven is that a small group of lightly armed reasonably well trained people can overcome another untrained and unprotected group.
By burying your heads in the sand and refusing to lock the cockpit doors (Plenty of European pilots on the forum here saying that its unsafe to do so) you are just setting up for a repeat.
And remember, it isn't just the lives in the aircraft anymore. This is a whole new ballgame and anything that an airplane flies over is at risk, an I am constantly astounded at the lack of recognition of that fact.
Counting on the pax to stop it, that's funny. The only thing that does is increase the number of bad guys required (and not by a whole lot for that matter) The pax would be a help, but if 10 guys stand up who know what they are doing, the only the pax will be is cannon fodder. Yes I am grateful for PAX assistance, yes it is necesary. No by itself it is not enough to return to the way things were. I have flown plenty of empty aircraft since 9/11 where you could put 10 guys on it and outnumber the good guys. Happens all the time in the morning and evening.
And CASLANCE, YES YES YES YES YES! I have been saying all along that there was NO failure of security on 9/11 as no contraband was used. Security performed as was intended. What failed was a lack of imagination. Security was set up around keeping guns and bombs off of aircraft, as everyone only thought in terms of destroying or hijacking aircraft, not using them as weapons. Its easy, can be done again, and most likely will be done again. No one had the imagination before.
Cheers
Wino
Last edited by Wino; 25th May 2002 at 03:51.