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Old 4th Jul 2009, 15:12
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Rob2: To clarify

The link on my previous post is the report to Dakar, that BEA said did not happen...
Hi Rob2,
Then, the clarification should be much more detailed than that as, again, I'm suspecting some bad translations and press fuzz over everyone declarations considering what the BEA actually said.

1. Brazilian ATC transcripts are part of the BEA report, Annexe 3, pages 98-101, French document. This brazilian tape dialog is in the BEA report. Then, the BEA can't claim this dialog doesn't exist when it is printed in its report, right?

2. Origin of misunderstanding:
a) Brazilian ATC, for unknow reason(s) under investigation, forget to include DAKAR ATC when the flight plan was dispatched to all concerned air controls, but DAKAR (GOOO) was rightly inserted in the flight plan delivered by Air France to Brazilian ATC.

b) As a consequence of a), DAKAR ATC could not create AF447 on its system because they lacked the informations (like aircraft immatriculation, codes, etc.). After Brazilian calls, DAKAR created manualy this flight on their system, but without the necessary flight plan informations.

c) As a consequence of b), AF447 ASD-C could not logon to DAKAR and was rejected at 0133, 0135 & 0201. At the same time, DAKAR radio problems (confirmed by other flights) prevented that any contact could be made between DAKAR ATC and AF447.

d) as a consequence of c), no contact being ever made between DAKAR ATC and AF 447 meant that no official transfer existed between Brazilian and Senegalese controls. The Brazilian control was still in charge of the flight until the flight could make a contact with its next ATC.

3. It doesn't mean that ATLANTICO didn't give DAKAR AF447 estimated time to TASIL with speed and altitude.

S~
Olivier

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