Or you could just pay as you go, best way of doing it, if they dont want to discount then dont fly, we are in a recession, any one turning business away is crazy, get your PPL and go private hire of someone on the strip, ive managed to find heaps of cheap aircraft for cash, (cheaper still than paying GST free hours) and do a deal for beer with their insurance broker.... Peter Bougen again at his best, ripping people off, whats next, Comeflyyourmoneyouthewindow Aircraft Hire T/A Ripmeoffcauseimastupidprickpilotandipayinadvance