sorry to dissapoint you nudger, but the leader of the AFAP Brian McCarthy said those exact words about how every union in the world is watching and it didn't mean cat sh*t in the end. pilots spent a lot of money getting qualified i still owe the bank mega bucks. i spent years in GA working my ass off and i don't intend throwing it away for a union. my Dad was in the TWU and a good labour voter and it worked out OK for him because that was 30 years ago. you have to move with the times and there is nothing wrong with the pay or conditions in Cathay Pacific. sorry, but the AOA has got it wrong this time. your so called scabs won BIG time in the '89 dispute so don't come the union is always right.there are no scabs here in Hong Kong, just guys trying to earn a living.