i think in six months time there will be some 100 pilots that won't really care what they are called but are at least they will be in their chosen career with a good airline. just ask the young pilots in 1989 that followed the union down the pied piper path and never worked in the industry again. you should talk to my brother for a couple of hours it was a terrible time. I have NO REGRETS. i am not being smug because i have my job but i really think the AOA should reassess its situation and give us new hires a fair go.