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Old 18th June 2009 | 12:52
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Human Factor
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The numbers quoted are right. However, it has missed out a great deal of other details and most of the rest is an error of omission (the second half of the document to be precise).

Good to see BASSA keeping their standards up.

In particular:

In addition to the numbers quoted, all pilots are to reduce their flying hour pay by £2 per hour. Given the number of hours generally flown, this will be between £1500 and £1800 per pilot per year (yes, some guys already fly 900 hours per year!!).

Time Away from Base Pay has been frozen at the rate from two years ago. These are all permanent changes.

The pilot deal is similar to the engineers in that it does not affect terms and conditions.
More bolleaux.

Not sure what the engineers agreed to, however the pilots have agreed to among other things reduced report times and shorter turnrounds between flights (allowing more duty/flying hours on a given day) and an increase to the number of hours we can work in the year (meaning an extra 3 or 4 days work a year). Put into context, a junior shorthaul Captain will lose around £5000 per year for ever (that's £100k over 20 years, BASSA - just thought I'd point that out as you clearly have difficulty with numbers, given that you've seen the same data as BALPA) and have to work significantly harder as well.

The "pay increment" is a red herring as all paypoints have been reduced by the same percentage. To put it in Willie's "work for free" terms, that's a free month every year for ever. Even he isn't doing that and trust me, a few share options aren't even going to come close to getting that back.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Do any of you honestly think that we'd be stupid enough to make sacrifices like that if we didn't know the state of the business, particularly given the recent BA/BALPA history?

Grow up.

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