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Old 14th Jun 2009, 21:51
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NotPilotAtALL
 
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Hello,

There is way too much blame being assigned here to a single entity be it a manufacturer or a single system.

The investigation is on-going and damn few facts are available to establish a causal chain. This thread is begining to look amateurish in its over simplification of what went wrong and who is to blame.

The idea that anybody involved with the investigation would not like to find the critical evidence (FDR/CVR etc.) is outlandish and demeans a supposedly professional internet site.

This is not about blame, lawyers or insurrance carriers, it's about finding enough information to prevent a similar accident.

Root cause is hogwash. Nobody can effectively eliminate any system malfunction whether it be pitot tube interactions with computers or a weather radar outage.

Our efforts need to be focused on minimization (of an occurrence) and mitigation (of the resulting hazard) To do this you need data on all the interactions that were at play in this accident including the pilots.

In today's machine you can not take the pilot out of the accident causal chain, yet nobody is even considering the what-ifs in this discussion. Remember for every system failure including the pilots there is a cause effect and that is ultimately how the corrective action will be accomodated.
Very interesting and informative post about different matters ..

Now .. if we give a raw sight on the aviation accidents statistics .. the figures show .. in almost 100 accidents .. pilot error is responsible for 80 .. so a average of 80% (nothing so far proof this new accident will inflate this 80%)
This average was different in the past .. but cause the progress of technologies .. technical failures are reduced at best engineering can.
So it's seem's that the corrections for avoid accidents work mainly when applied to technical parts and not so best on humans.
So we can conclude .. the technology progress (sometime with big jumps) but unfortunately the human stay the same .....
It's possible the strong response for avoid at max the possibilities of accident will be to reduce the most possible the human actions in a plane .. and ultimately (after some more big technology jumps) remove humans pilots from plane ??

Regards.
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