pth You speak with the sound of direct experience, and I appreciate that. I simply won't demand anyone look at anything as conclusive. At this point it is absurd. I think you are right, and I think I'm right. The point by point is yet to be, but there's enough to have a dread. 587 was climbing at low altitude, 447 was cruising at Mach .80 (at Least?) at 35,000 feet.
The lonely VS/Rudder tells a tale that is hard to ignore.
Will