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Old 9th Jun 2009, 18:05
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PJ2
 
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golfyankeesierra;
Sorry Guys, you have to stop.
I agree with you if you mean those who extrapolate small amounts of evidence into broader theories/conclusions about what occurred.

It really gets annoying that after every accident someone needs to point out that younger pilots can't fly and and training isn't what it used to be.
Why does it "get annoying" for you? A comment about the level of training and relative absence of experience in high-performance transport aircraft is not about offending or annoying, it is about informing and even challenging the present circumstances in which both airlines and new pilots find themselves. Who is going to come to this profession for sixteen-thousand a year and the kind of training regimes new pilots must accept from their employer who themselves are only trying to make a buck and stay in business? This is much, much more than about stars in one's eyes about aviation, that wonderful love of flying that drives many to arrest all other activities in their lives to follow their dream.

This is a complex matter about the present practicalities of the career which I and other poster have dealt with thoroughly in other threads and which, if you haven't, I kindly invite you to read and consider. We cannot and should not deal with it here.

This was an experienced crew!
No disagreement there given that this was Air France. I have already stated (in bold font), that "my comments do not apply to this crew".

And even after and despite this tragic accident, aviation still remains safer then it has ever been.
I and all who fly (past tense in my case) professionally understand this very well and would agree, so I'm not certain what you're trying to convey. The larger message from the post you're quoting from is, while you're observation is correct, the accident trend and issues outlined elsewhere are not pointing to a continuance of that trend, (low accident rates, safest means of transportation etc etc), and a lot of safety specialists "have their radar on" as it were and are speaking out, loud and clear. The issues I describe above and more thoroughly in other threads are serious, immanent issues in this industry which, if left unaddressed, have the potential to turn the industry's admirable safety record around.

Let me ask in the face of the accidents since the tragic and avoidable MD80 one at Madrid, where are the "Sully's" of professional transport aviation? Such a statement is perhaps quite a direct and pithy way of stating the issue, but there it is - sometimes "pithy" is the shortest way to communicate overarching concerns. We have three accidents, (Madrid, Buffalo, Amsterdam) which have resulted from basically stalling an airliner and which have killed a lot of our passengers. That's unacceptable.

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