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Old 5th Jun 2009, 03:07
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Perhaps a few numbers will help you get it.

These are the actual numbers from an old loadsheet that I kept for training purposes, feel free to verify them. Destination wasn't a Nex destination, but the distance involved was about 40nm less than the distance from Malaga to Waterford. Figures are for TBIC though, in a previous life. There was no takeoff or landing performance restriction. If you look at a 146 performance book that incudes WAT, you will see that there is no landing restriction for a normal landing on a dry runway.

Traffic load was 45 M 42 F 3 C 6 I, bags 1557, total traffic load 8295kg. That's only 90 seated pax out of 100 seats.

Dry Operating Mass 24500
Total Traffic Load 8295
Zero Fuel Weight 32795 (max 33339)
Takeoff Fuel 7800 (max 9300)
Takeoff Mass 40595 (max 40596 with lightweight gear) OK by 1 kg
Trip Fuel 5425
Landing Mass 35170 (max 35153 with lightweight gear) NOT OK

So you can see that on that day, we were overweight for landing by 17kg but not restricted for takeoff. You always make fuel on these plogs, so we actually ended up around 300kg overweight for landing (which meant some quality time in the hold). With the diversion we had - only around 100nm away - the window between minimum diversion fuel and MLW was only about 50kg.

Them's the facts, the 146 with the lightweight gear is a real problem on long sectors. You have to wonder who was advising Nex when they bought it, there were plenty of other machines around with the beefier gear at the time, and they were very cheap.

On the subject of Efly, their website says that the first aircraft, 9H-ELE, was delivered and then transferred to Malta for their AOC proving flight on the 13th of May. Are they lying?
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