Baston
I also believe that JP and Caz have some well argued and relevant points, I am even on record on here as saying that I suspect what JP thinks happened is probably correct.
The difference is that JP and Caz in their seemingly blind and slavish devotion to Messers Wratten and Day have never once, and I suspect never will concede that others on here have well argued and relevant points as well, as to do so casts serious doubts on this unjust verdict and they can't have that can they.