The forum is well stalked by me
I am thinking that the card is ok, The settings have been shuffled to death, but I am thinking about resetting the cmos and before thst checking there's no loose wires on the mobo.
The tv cards are both just on drivers only rather than software too, but they have been since xp media centre, so across three builds now, I understand that they just pass through the audio signal with no processing & what the soundcard does is called 'upmixing' to split the signal into 4.1, 5.1 or 7.1 as the speakers require.
However, I am still stuffed.
