Seldom
I would be very grateful if you did not put words into my posts. It serves no purpose but to obfuscate my points.
I think that JP and CAZ have some relevant well argued points that so many of you - out of some form of blind logic/loyalty/have it what you will, (and I admire some of those sentiments), prefer to ignore. I do not think on the evidence presented that this is as complicated as some of you would like to think.
It would be nice also that after the last 15 years of wondering and discussion, that we who remain, and remember so well that awful stomach churning moment when we heard the news should try to remain civil to those whose views we may not agree with.