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Old 31st May 2009, 12:12
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Yes, section 4-25 does discuss 0-10º Flap setting, still no distances although there is a mention that 10º flap "reduces the ground roll and total distance over an obstacle by approximately 10 percent"
So, zero flap departures are OK provided you add 11% to the figs on page 5-14
plus the CAO20.7.4 (section 6) CASA factor of 1.15 (aircraft <2000Kg)
Although, that 15% is not very clear that it IS a requirement if using the flight manual figs...
if you read CAO20.7.4 section 6
6.1 states 'subject to paragraph 6.3' then mentions the 1.15 factor requirement
6.3 states to refer to to either requirements in 6.1 and 6.2
OR
'the requirements relating to the take-off distance in either of those manuals (approved foreign flight manual or manufacturer's data sheet)

6.1 is subject to 6.3 which refers to requirements in 6.1 and 6.2 OR use the flight manual...
The "OR" to me means there is no requirement to refer to 6.1 and 6.2 (factoring 15%) if using an approved foreign flight manual.
you can use the tables in the manual without having to factor 15%

Am I reading this correctly???
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