Some research for you Mr Dick
“ICAO Annex 11 Chapter 3 Air Traffic Control Service
3.3.3 Clearances issued by air traffic control units shall provide separation
a) between all flights in airspace Classes A and B;
b) between IFR flights in airspace Classes C, D and E;
c) between IFR flights and VFR flights in airspace Class C;
d) between IFR flights and special VFR flights;
e) between special VFR flights when so prescribed by the appropriate ATS authority,
except that, when requested by an aircraft and if so prescribed by the appropriate ATS authority for the cases listed under b) above in airspace Classes D and E, a flight may be cleared without separation being so provided in respect of a specific portion of the flight conducted in visual meteorological conditions.”
Appendix 4 of Annex 11- ATS AIRSPACE CLASSES - SERVICES PROVIDED AND FLIGHT REQUIREMENTS
ICAO Class D [not American D or Australian GAAP]
“Type of flight = IFR and VFR
Separation provided = IFR from IFR, VFR nil
Service Provided=
IFR = Air traffic control service, traffic information about VFR flights (and traffic avoidance advice on request)
VFR = IFR/VFR and VFR/VFR traffic information (and traffic avoidance on request)”
Australian Class D is stricter application of the ICAO Air Traffic Control Service definition of ‘prevent collisions’ between IFR and VFR, a good idea with high capacity passenger operations, another difference from GAAP
Back to your error, American D and Australian GAAP are essentially the same service, and different to ICAO D and Australian D, back to Bankstown, you think that heli and fixed wing transits [Westmead, and past the current Bankstown CTR] will not create frequency congestion and traffic management overload much of which will be outside visual range of the tower? you think you will receive traffic information? No, traffic information in American D and Australian GAAP is strictly workload permitted. You have not thought this through [common theme] Mr Dick
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