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Old 26th May 2009 | 23:59
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ShyTorque

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ChrisN, Please just read again what I wrote here, not what you might have thought I might have written. I don't want to discuss again here what we have gone over in the past.

I posted here in response to the original concern about the lack of a LARS service, which increasingly affects all types of aircraft in Class G airspace.

I'm definitely not anti gliders and after thirty two years of flying for a living I feel I am fully aware of the level of risk they pose to me. As I'm sure I told you before, I began my flying in gliders some thirty eight years ago and I may well go back to it one day. The only thing I'm truly anti is a mid air collision. I fulfil my obligations regarding see and avoid to the best of my ability and have no issue in that respect or the rules of the air. I just can't help being irritated by the blinkered attitude of "We'll fly where we like, how we like, you must avoid us - and we've got parachutes, you haven't" brigade. Four 500mph helicopter rotor blades through the cockpit wouldn't leave a glider pilot, or any other, unscathed.

Powered aircraft very often do appear on someone's radar or if no radar service is available, they do also appear on TCAS. Of course they do enter CAS when not authorised, but we can see them far better than we can see gliders.

Gliders most often don't apear on radar and their pilots do routinely enter CAS, deliberately or not. I encountered a glider orbitting right on the centreline of a major UK airport only about three weeks ago, ATC were unaware of it inside the airspace and the routing they gave us was straight towards it. Another airport, Doncaster has recently published a NOTAM about gliders not being on frequency and in CAS but unknown to ATC.

The possibility of aircraft being required to operate without a useful radar service in the UK's open FIR in cloud is increasing as ATC units offer less of a service.
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