Chimbu (post 56) and Ferris (post 59), agree with some points both of you have made but I must say I lean 70% towards Chimbu - well said.
I believe in a strong civil society but we have gone too far along the road of taxing productive workers and business to death and drowning them in red tape whilst the pile of "dead wood" we have to support grows ever larger (I'm talking about you and your Govt. KRudd + most state Govts.).