Olive, the art of perpetually asking questions, rejecting the answers but then demanding your questions be answered is an art form developed here by caz and JP to heights that you cannot hope to match. Rather I urge you to read carefully the post above by tucumseh. Therein lies the ultimate answer to the question that underlines this thread, which is "what happened?". That post tells us what happened, a tragedy that the ancient Greeks would have recognised, the descent of a once renowned Flight Safety system into depths that make the latest revelations of MPs greed appear as nothing more than a minor domestic tiff about pocket money. Sooner or later caz will have his investigation, whether he wishes or no. For the sake of avoiding future avoidable accidents let us hope it be sooner.