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Old 9th May 2009, 15:24
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delwy
 
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Leo the camel: Good Grief. Could you be any stupider?
Just who is calling who stupid? (See below).
Leo the camel: These structures that have been created and favourably ruled upon by the Revenue Commissioners
There is absolutely no evidence of this. Some actually deny it is the case. There is NOTHING in writing about any part of this proposal. There are statements, such as yours. But no guarantees and no certainty. The pilot has to go to a sole supplier of this service (for whom you seem to be a willing spokesman). The person named does not have an accountancy qualification. You are forced to go to this supplier.

Err… doest a whiff of smoke not appear here?

Leo the camel: ………. are such that FO's who join the scheme will be liable for ZERO % PRSI contributions. That's right, ZERO %.
And what of their old age pension or social provisions in the event of being made redundant or laid off, etc? It just means they get nothing (if laid off) and less (or no) old age pension. You believe that all social provisions are a version of a communist takeover and that it is actually good not to pay them. (You don’t mention that any arrangement for the pilot not to pay gets rid of the much higher percentage PRSI payment by the employer…. perish the thought that this could be the real motivation for the “ZERO %”!).

Short-term advantage, long-term penalty is what we are really talking about here.

Leo the camel: The company you're referring to has invested an enormous amount of time and energy to ensure one outcome, and one outcome alone. To maximise your earnings by minimising your tax liabilities.
How terribly kind, even considerate. But why did they do so without being asked? Why was it necessary to do it? Why is NOTHING available in writing? Why is so much unclear? Who benefits?

Is this a charitable company? I ask because they seem to want to encourage pilots to make a charitable donation – absolutely true!! It turns out that BRK have a charitable role, as does Ryanair with its scratch cards. Any chance you can explain what this “charitable donation” is all about Leo? I’ll just bet you don’t, or won’t. If ever there was a case for attacking the poster and avoiding the subject this is it! Go to it Leo!!

Leo the camel: Who was it that said if you give a pilot a brick of solid gold, he's whine about the inconvenience of its weight?
Who was it who said if you give a pilot a brick of gold painted lead, he’d whine about the rip off and might even ask a few questions?

Leo the camel: Cadet Pilot, you have a lot to say for one so new, but writing from a point of complete ignorance does you no favours. If you really are a cadet, might I suggest focussing on the positive for a moment or two?
Translation: the asking of inconvenient or penetrating questions is not welcome in Ryanair, Brookfield or any part of the wider Camel Empire. Learn your place and stay quietly therein. Appreciate that the great and the good smiled upon you when you were permitted to pay handsomely for your type-rating. If not, you can learn what it is to simultaneously have no job and no PRSI payments.

Nod, Nod, Wink, Wink, word to the wise, say no more, know what I mean?

Leo the camel: Your whinging is reminiscent of the bitter and twisted, and though there's no shortage of them in leafy outer reaches of Essex, you'd do well to remember that angry young men invariably become angry old men.
This is Leo in his more obtuse and whimsical state of being - I think he may be concerned that you may end up like him. An uncharacteristic example of Leo showing some empathy? On reflection......... , probably not.

Leo the camel: Is that the future you aspire to for yourself?
Err … If you or anybody else listens to Leo, there future will be even worse than it seems likely to be. Do your own aspiring and keep asking questions.

Let’s get to the bottom line here.
Listen to Leo. “Big Camel” is looking out for you. “Big Camel” loves you. If “Big Camel” attacks you, it will only be for your own good. “Big Camel” only says bad things about those who want to hurt you. That’s why “Big Camel” engages in this thread – just to help his fellow pilots. Support “Bog Camel” for President and obediently listen to his wisdom. Long live Leo Hairy-Camel, wise, honest and trustworthy spokesman for the Camel Empire!
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