I just love how this debate goes on and on. Polarised views colouring the views from both sides of the fence.
Considder this;
When driving pass a school it is recomended that your speed is less than 20 mph but with an absolute limit of 30 mph.
or
When driving past a school it is recomended that your speed is less than 20 mph and with an absolute limit of 30 mph.
I believe that both of the above sentences say the same.
They both recomend that you drive at less than 20 mph
They both say that while driving at 25mph you are not following the recomendation but are within the overall limit
They both say that driving at 35 mph in the above case is not OK because it is outside the absolute limit of speed allowed.
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