WOW! The last couple of years have been complete eye openers. Trust me these guys that get trashed around here, are the same guys we'd worship when we started off in IC in the early 90's. They are reliable pilots and excellent teachers. However, I guess it takes more than that to make a good management person. I only hope that all that's being written here is a miscommunication of some sort (hoping against hope). Maybe they should've been left to flying rather than make them deskhogs.