I understand what you are saying
dolphinops and, to some degree, I have to agree with you.
The trouble is that, to the military user, MATZs are compulsory and some of those users (particularly the more arrogant fast jet types who have sounded out on this forum on previous threads) tend to think they own that airspace and they can do what they like in it and any civvie pilot who is there should be prepared to give them priority because it is "their" airspace and they are "important".
Against that, there are at least two types of civvie pilot - those who tend to feel intimidated by the situation (as they believe the outline above) and who meekly try to get "clearance" through the MATZ, rather in the mindset of "second-class citizens" - and then there are those who understand the true situation which is that it is still Class G airspace, nobody "owns" it and they are free to call or not for penetration "approval" as they wish and then to expect an appropriate service.
The problem you highlight stems from the fact that there are at least these three different points of view from the users of the MATZ airspace and thus users are singing from a variety of different song-sheets, with widely differing expectations from the same airspace.
A military user of a MATZ has to have "clearance", like an ATZ. As a civilian user, you do not get "clearance" through a MATZ - there is either an "approval" or "unable to approve", and you are still free to continue without "approval", provided you do not bust the ATZ. It is of course undoubtedly sensible to try to seek co-ordination with other users of this MATZ airspace but, unless or until there is the necessary common understanding, it is bound to be at best less than perfect and at worst it risks being (as you say) illogical and dangerous.
JD
