I was wondering why flight instructors seems relactant to take students who are about to do an IFR RIDE up in actual IFR conditions. I have been up once with my instructor in cloud which was based at about 4 000 ft. I have tried to arange to go up again but it seems like there is always something holding us back. Would like to hear what every one thinks about this subject? I mean what is the point of an IFR Ticket if you have next to no experience in IFR. So what when a person gets their ticket and find themselves in IMC without an instructor is this the time to start learning how it really is?