Guys have just been looking over the past comments with regard to the topic of spinning. Bose x whilst I appreciate your comments, I find the premise of teaching 'average, normal

people' only the rudimentaries of flying, frankly horrific. With the exception of CFIT, unintentional spin/loss of control is the biggest killer within GA. Indivuduals who take up flying MUST BE AWARE of the dangers, and the ONLY way to teach and prepare is to carry out the procedure. If the club does not have the equipment, nor the staff to conduct FULL spin procedues and awareness, then the club sends the student to an organisation who can conduct that part of the PPL course. A full aggrevated spin is not a pleasant experience, however, unless you have experienced it, and understand the recovery process, then I am sorry, you are not fully trained.
It has nothing to do with 'military macho flying', it goes with the turf. That is what aeroplanes can do, sometimes with alarming regularity, and unless fully aware, the consequences will be fatal. You cannot shield potential pilots from this truth.