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QUOTE]Here again is an example of how watered down our training is becoming. Even in stall training its recovery at the incipient stage for fear of asymetric power and a subsequent spin in twins.
I use an old examiner who is also part of the old school no incipient stuff for him in twins. Its climb to 8-10000 feet and the full bloodied stuff.
I dislike disecting spinning away from any "handling training" whether that is spins, spiral dives, stalls etc.
They are so important in giving a pilot an overall confidence in his machinery, what he can do and what his aircraft is capable of because one day he may need those skills no matter how much avoidance he practices. that pilot will be better equipt to survive than the avoidance trained pilot.
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Pace---I'm in total agreement

we baking a bunch of soft gingerbread cookies instead of pilots---like the one from m the film 'Shrek' that says 'Ooh No' for everything

PA