Like you Krusty I am quite despondant at the 'negotiations'. The stalling tactics whilst pilots were in demand was quite disgraceful, followed by a 'you will sign now' (for an offer that never materialised formally) - now a yet to be determined revision downwards of the package. Seems to me there is only 2 choices left - withdraw labour in some form or sign on the dotted line and we all know that only a minority would be willing to go through with the unpleasantries of strike action. So sadly we kneel down, remove our hats and.....