tbaylx, what you say is right and that this should be a leaning experience for the industry as a whole. Sacking people is not a means to an end. All that i am saying is that this thread is full of strange and imaginative reasons why the aircraft left a lot of aluminium on the runway at melbourne. As the investigation is pointing towards the wrong infromation being put into the computer ( to suggest any sort of cover up or conspiracy only insults the professionals working in this industry). I have been in engineering for 35 years and have never sacked anyone for putting there hand up for making a mistake. We are all in this industry together lets keep it professional and safe for our customers. thanks guys.