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Vote NO
The democratic process is not flawed, however some might suggest that those who voted yes for the pension may have flawed decision making processes, and fundamentally fail to comprehend that giving in once sends out signals of weakness
And the majority who vated yes might disagree with your suggestion that they had flawed decision making processes and that 'giving in' is entirely different to voting to accept something which appeared to be fundamental to sustaining their pensions in the future.
Hence, we are no further forward with the "pay rise"
You're conflating 2 different issues. The only way you could link them is in that the negotiators on both sides were too involved with the pension issue to look at the pay issue in time for the pay discussions to deliver a pay deal in time for 1st Jan. But that late agreement has not been unusual in my time in the company, other than the past couple of years which were part of a 3 year deal, and has always been backdated.
BD