It is getting ridiculous now. It is April, and we are still non the wiser about our pay increase. Say they give us this figure of 4.8%, but dont backdate it, what is the actual increase. If it goes into may/june, will we get our increment rises, backdated. Come on give us something to chew over. If they have nothing in the coffers to offer, say so, but then ensure you dont pay dividends or bonuses or rumored 9%. If we are getting little or no payrise for the good of the company, I will accept that, if we are getting little or no payrise, but bonuses,dividends and management are getting payrises, then this is unacceptable.