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Old 5th Apr 2009, 19:38
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jumpdrive
 
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the economy has not ended anything
here the flights are with very high loads
market here its very diff compared to india or thailand 4 example
its growing more and more

the deal is still on
the contract says a minimum of 3 years in to enter the pool
again , you'll go up, depending on need & your performance
and maybe just maybe how cool the guys in hanoi think you are
it will also help to have a key local contact to push things a little bit with the big gun's to put your name on the table, or below the table he he
now,............ they say its a case by case thing
and that you could be elegible "now" after completing 2 years in, this is verbal, not in papper, so still the 36 month's is the rule ,....its in evryones contract,........... & by the way, you can also chose to go onto the 777 f/o, they need lot's of those right now, many many flights on that bird are being done by 2 capt's

now the other factor that might have (or for sure did in my opinion) influenced any decision from them , & here are a couple of examples
1st is that captain's go and do the type/rating outside Vietnam............cool thats ok, fair enough, you can do it on your holiday, nice & easy, maybe the instructor its your pal, & its in your home town.............,.....but..............eh eh eh , hold your horses........... not too good from the local's point of view...............thats MONEY they don't get from each pilot willing to give away a rating of 22K + the bond PLUS.....yes plus.....the salary you don't receive while in ground class & sim!, you will only start getting paid, after your 1st line training flight..................ANDDDDDD..........only 90% of the salary..........................MINUS..............yes minus whatever you must pay back to the agency for the rating
remember that dozen's of pocket's must & need to be filled up with each rating a foreigner here does!
the last example & most talked about in the gossip magazines was the case of the last 2 ATR skippers that went on the 'bus type rating
& how they did after more than a year into the thing......................horrible
it has to be the longest type rating class in the world........................result.......................bo th failed, 1 of them is back on the ATR (lucky if you ask me that they took him.............well maybe not, he also had to pay to get current "again" on the ATR sim, rumour say around 10K extra on the bank bill) and the other capt (clever 1) staying on the bus .........but as f/o ,.....they say for 6 month's, ..............who knows ?

lot of money spend, or put it like this not received
you could say you've earn it............but thats the vietnamese way like it or not, it doesnt make sense, but in this troubled times......it's "show me the money" or in the local slang..........no money no honey.............like the girls in apocalypse

realistic time frame...........................that doesnt exist man

sorry, for the good or bad news

now remember not all details are given in full by the agencies
maybe one more than the other, but, still, like all agencias,
they just want theyre cut, and quite simpluy forget about you
they dont care if your dreams is the 320 or 380

it's not personal it's simply a big big business
and evryone want's a share of it

again make it clear with the agency you might be dealing with
needless to say ................put it on papper


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