For what it's worth I think 'they' are waiting until after the end of year profit figures are produced. If they are high then the union will hopefully get stuck in! I disagree with the post above on one point: Remember when the ATSA's went on a one day strike? Our customers were forced to cancel flights by their hundreds! I expect Mr BAW to be on the phone to Mr Von Richthoven in short order! The uninions should stop this cosy arrangement of "working together" until management make a decent offer. The unions need to take a much tougher line.