Originally Posted by hyfly
- fact 1: We at AABO got a job offered - we didn't set up AACS/AABO
- fact 2: We got the job offered as too few of Atlas US crewmembers accepted the offer to move to STN
- fact 3: If you would have moved to STN - the 1st, 2nd or 3rd time this was offered - you could be in the left seat for 9 years now.
1. Offered a job just like those at Eastern Airlines when they were looking for non union replacement workers. No, you didn't set up AACS. You and your ilk just took advantage of the opportunity without concern of the moral implications. I doubt it ever entered into your collective mind set judging from your posts what you were doing.
2. Did you ever ask yourself why there were too few? Only 19 out of 600+ crew members taking the company up on the STN non union, non inline seniority upgrades says a lot to me and obviously most of the Atlas mainline guys recognized what the company's true effort was on that.
3. See answer 2 again. Few more took the offer the subsequent times and then complained when their was yet another tier of seniority created after new company interpretations. That was latter resolved to only two tiers AACS and Mainline.
After reviewing your previous postings on TOS between us, I noted you did a very good job of cherry picking answers and misconceptions to pump up your numbers for your argument. That is to be expected.
While doing so, you confirmed how the company has now used the Atlas CBA (in which AACS helped in minimizing by their creation/leverage through mainline 1 to 1 furloughs to AACS new hires) to bring your previous lucrative contract down to what it is now. How was it stated by Mr. C. "if we can't get the costs down in STN (AACS) we will have to relocate the STN base elsewhere more cost effective in Europe. BTW, that would negate the STN Letter Of agreement with the Union putting you (AACS/AABO) in as new hire seniority and pay."
Took no time at all for all but about 5 (the protected cross overs) to sign that new AACS contract after hearing that. Funny how all of AACS/AABO wants to be friends until coming into parity with ill gotten seniority/pay/upgrades is mentioned somewhere-somehow. Then the true colors of original intent come blazing forth.
Now the company ties your contract TOS to the timing of the Atlas mainline one. That way, they don't give you too much now that they don't need you that much. You don't get anything new until we do.
So in the process of sticking it to the Mainline guys with ill gotten upgrades and past lucrative pay,
you have unexpectantly stuck it to yourselves. You will find little sympathy on that except among your ilk. Most of your kind got the upgrade, flight time, the first TOS lucrative pay and left knowing what they were doing. Leaving for that next stable expat job somewhere else that they were just newly qualified for as soon as they could. AABO is now down to less than 50. I guess there are those that just can't get a job elsewhere in a legit manner despite seeing the bridge is out down the road. Guess you will just have to find another startup non union crew leasing place looking for non union replacement workers and convince them of your past arguments about what good guys you are. There are always some companies looking for that kind somewhere.
I don't think there will be many shedding tears upon AABO's departure considering the Atlas numbers that had been furloughed in past years and present while you boys kept moving along protected by the warden on so many levels.
Now there is a more labor friendly government in place compared to the last 9 years. Exporting of jobs while furloughing employees in the US seems to be a bad thing now. That took long enough. So while the company tries getting more government contracts, the AACS/AABO issue will be thrown into congresses face at every opportunity and soon the company may realize that AABO is more expensive than they are worth. With 1.4 million collective Teamster votes vs. the past 50K ALPA votes (at best when they felt like supporting us) we might get their attention now. It is an agenda item for the government and Teamsters.